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Boy, that was as subtle as a sledgehammer.

Yup.

That said, I think Amy does a great HRC impression--as these things go. What continues to annoy me is that the impression of Obama continually depicts him not as 'naive' but as stupid, with all the 'duh,' and 'ummm' making him sound a bit retarded. Perhaps they need a different actor, or at least better lines?

Perhaps they need a different actor, or at least better lines?

Or a better candidate.

A Dream Team, It's Never Too Late

Obama Gore? Obama Webb?

It's not to late, its just about time.

That was pretty good.

how 'bout clinton/coulter? i understand charles believes it "takes a woman"...:)

The headline is a perfect match for the video. On the one hand Hillary's camp wants you to know that only she and McCain have passed the "threshold" for executive leadership. On the other, they'd like you to know that a Hillary-Obama dream ticket would be frickin' awesome!

Dende: lol.

Even Bill Clinton seems to be pushing that idea now!

There is obviously some kind of political calculation here, but I don't quite see it. Perhaps the idea is that if they suggest Obama will still be around (as VP), but that Clinton has more so-called "experience" (which is false in any case), then they might convince those sitting on the fence to go for what is perceived as the putatively "safe" choice (Clinton), while still getting another candidate they also like (Obama). That is the only rational consistency I can find in simultaneously fear-mongering that Obama is unqualified to protect the nation as President, and then in the same breath suggesting that, hey, he might be a good vice president.

However things turn out, I think it is unlikely that either candidate will pick the other for VP. Which is to say: it's just talk and political maneuvering.

Are the writers still on strike because it sounds like the actors are just adlibbing? This is right from the Republican playbook: say something often enough and everyone accepts it as reality. Hilary and McCain have experience; Obama is lacking. Got it.

Wait a second; I almost forgot that I can think for myself. Even if that were true, how often do you come across someone with tons of experience in a certain endeavor and still isn’t any good at it? After GWB, Obama will seem like the most experienced and capable president in our nation’s history. I am also not stupid enough to think that Hilary or Obama will make a whole lot of difference in the grand scheme—although I think that either of them will be a lot better than another Republican.

I’ve said this before: The Democrats need a landslide victory in November. They need a mandate. I don’t really care which candidate brings home that landslide so Obama and Clinton supporters should stick to policy and stop all of the childish name-calling and Rove tactics. They should save that for the Republicans—they will need it.

So... my boss and another woman at the office found this to be very racist. I thought it spoofed the over the top message of the Hillary 3am ad, but they saw it as something very sinister. They kept telling me that anyone who went through the civil rights era would feel the same way. They said that this was just like sitcoms that would depict blacks as too stupid to handle the complexities of the white world. They had such a strong, resentful attitude to what I thought was a very funny bit that clowned Hillary and the mind set of the more zealous of her supporters. Anyone else have, or run across someone with a similar "omg that was racist" reaction to this skit?

They said that this was just like sitcoms that would depict blacks as too stupid to handle the complexities of the white world.

Well, I'm from a younger generation. But as I said, they did depict him, not as naive but as stupid (This was pretty obvious is the debate 'skits' but it's blatant in this one). And yes, some older caricatures--even before the civil rights era--of the good natured but dim and pleasure driven (can't focus on the real world, would rather kick back and smoke) black dude incapable of managing the complexities that beset white people in a supposedly civilized world did occur to me. Which is to say: it is a caricture of a black man, not Obama, which is to say, yes, it is racist trash.

SNL may respond that that's not what they 'intended'. But of course racism doesn't haven't be intentional or self-conscious, and often isn't.

Dende said:

The headline is a perfect match for the video. On the one hand Hillary's camp wants you to know that only she and McCain have passed the "threshold" for executive leadership. On the other, they'd like you to know that a Hillary-Obama dream ticket would be frickin' awesome!

I agree. I find it disgusting that Hillary Clinton would completely trash Obama and say that he is not fit to be president and then say that he'd be the perfect vice president. She actually said that McCain is more fit to be president than Obama.

And for all of the Clinton supporters to be so overly sensitive about things that Obama has said and has claimed that he's a misogynist and then to not be sensitive about being racist is duplicitous.

I think it's strange that anyone would be sensitive about a candidate like Hillary or Obama. IMO it would be different if they were a Chaves or Morales etc. type but they aren't.

Sinbad's take on this skit and Clinton's experience.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/sinbad_unloads_on_hillary_clin.html

Pelosi: Joint ticket impossible

"I think that ticket either way is impossible," Pelosi told a New England Cable News reporter Tuesday, pointing to comments from Clinton and her campaign that implied Republican John McCain would make a better commander-in-chief than Obama.

"I think that the Clinton administration has fairly ruled that out by proclaiming that Senator McCain would be a better commander-in-Chief than Obama," she said.

She spoke bluntly about her view that a joint ticket was not in the cards, she said, because "I wanted to be sure I didn't leave any ambiguity."

The California Democrat, who has remained neutral throughout the party's primary process, said she remains an uncommitted superdelegate.